Comments on: On GNOME Shell

By: nq6

nq6 — Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:55:26 +0000

The influence of Unity on the Gnome Shell

The Gnome developers know that 14 million to 16 million will be using the Unity.Eles will not want your users lost in Unity. Then copied the layout. Below is a screen that shows this.

http://i.imgur.com/w0b5e.jpg

Today we can see the force of the decisions of the developers of Ubuntu. What we have with the new Gnome Shell, a replica of the Unity. It seems Unity with a new theme.

By: jcm

jcm — Wed, 20 Oct 2010 23:29:37 +0000

@Adam: Actually, it’s totally valid for me to say “the panel is gone and I wanted it”. It’s a fault of the Open Source community to think we always know better than users, or that a specific design philosophy will win just because it seems better. I as a user want my panel, I’m used to it and it works for how I use a desktop computer. And I’m not alone in thinking this, given how most other desktops behave today, even the latest shiny stuff from Apple. I’m aware it’s not the final version yet, but realistically can it change a lot more before it is? I’m talking about pretty fundamental stuff in the design that I really dislike quite strongly

It bothers me because I want to keep up with GNOME as the default desktop in Fedora. But if the future is GNOME Shell (as it stands), I’ll have to have a second test login or switch sessions to see how things would look under the shell rather than than actually use it. I started looking at alternatives – including KDE – though nothing is quite what I want (GNOME 2).

By: Fabian

Fabian — Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:22:03 +0000

Somewhat I feel a bit like nicu – being part of an audience that is not targeted by gnome-shell. But I really wonder where I will land, when the shell becomes GNOMEs main UI.
I haven’t got any really suggestions or details what i dislike, as I also never spent much time with the shell …

By: Thub

Thub — Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:16:25 +0000

I personally like where it’s going and would support any kind of creative departure from the Windows 95 and MacOS 7 mimicry that has been the basis of so many “user friendly” desktop environments until very recently, but I concede that it likely isn’t for everyone. In fact I’m glad that, at least for the forseeable future (through the F15 timeframe), the “classic” Gnome desktop will be available in Fedora, but I don’t expect that this desktop will be supported in the long term.
As for gnome-shell itself, I hear a lot of gripes about the interface that aren’t exactly true. Things like, “there are too many clicks to switch windows.” Well, certainly you have to either Alt Tab or enter the shell mode, or application mode, or whatever it’s called, to click on another window, but you can just move the cursor into the upper-left corner; technically not another click. That’s still a switch that has to take place that didn’t before though, with all the windows on the switcher at the bottom of the screen.
The other thing that I think is woefully under-advertised is that the gnome-shell in Fedora 13 is, by all accounts, extremely out of date and makes for a very poor indication of how the whole workflow will actually work. However, the last time I tried to test the latest version (http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell#Building) it failed to build, so I can’t really say it’s improved either. :-/
I just wish this was a little more widespread information because I would hate for everyone to write off gnome-shell with such a poor example of its implimentation. Personally, I will reserve judgement until F15, but I’m keeping my eyes open for other desktop options in the meantime.

By: korbe

korbe — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:55:57 +0000

Gnome Shell is very inspired by Maemo 5.

As I said before on the Gnome-Shell Mailing list, Gnome-Shell (without its left panel) is very very good to replace the present-day Expo plugin of Compiz, but it don’t add enough good news features to become the main UI for Gnome.

The present-day main UI of Gnome still better in many point.

If we can use Gnome-Shell to replace the present-day Expo plugin of Compiz and keep the present-day Gnome 2.XX main UI (Gnome-Panels, 3 menus (Applications, Shortcuts, System), list of Windows open, etc.) for Gnome 3.XX, it would be great. We can also keep the design of Gnome-Shell for the Gnome 2.XX main UI.

Ex: Use this mockup: http://jimmac.musichall.cz/images/blog/shell-system-indicators.png for make the “3 menus” of top Gnome-panel

I have add a little proposition to my mail on Gnome-Shell mailing list: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/2010-October/msg00009.html

What do you think?

Do not hesitate to come and support me.