I have opinions on pragmatism that I believe explain precisely why nobody was running Fedora, but nobody is interested in hearing those anyway.

True enough I am a nobody, but then I guess that’s why I actually would be interested in those reasons. Been a user of RHL since RHL 6, and so 7,8,9 skipped FC1, but have had every other release since then (through F13). I know why I use Fedora, but lately it is easier to tell others to run Ubuntu. Personally I think there is a lot that RH/Fedora could learn from some of its own flame wars on everything from ABRT to the stable updates policy, to EMEA to …

BTW, do love your LKML Podcasts.

Was there *really* nobody there on the same level as you? I haven’t been to a different LUG besides my local one but yours according to your description just seems *really* unnatural. The blu.org website seems to indicate that they are a reasonably diverse and active bunch.

My LUG attempts to be somewhat formal and structured however what it really comes down to is an excuse to meet socially every fortnight. Only half the normal crowd is near my technical level (and some well above!) but there are a few people below our level who despite running boring Ubuntu desktops still attempt to do some interesting things using Open Source.

Some people there also recognise the value of Linux and Open Source and use it — but their main hobbies and priorities lay elsewhere… Good on them, right? Its better to have them involved in the LUG than not.

Sometimes a few of the local Red Hat employees come to the LUG (though they are generally on IRC and mailing lists) but for the most part I am the sole Fedora user. The Debian crowd are usually pretty easy to get along with and the occasional Gentoo/Slackware/Arch/FreeBSD guy is interesting.