Comments on: The Walmart Rule http://www.jonmasters.org/blog/2007/09/10/the-walmart-rule/ World Organi[sz]ation Of Broken Dreams Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:35:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: jcm http://www.jonmasters.org/blog/2007/09/10/the-walmart-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-100232 jcm Sun, 16 Sep 2007 01:02:56 +0000 http://www.jonmasters.org/blog/?p=616#comment-100232 Oh, I don't mind arguing with you Pete - like I said over dinner, I have *infinite* time for smart people, even if I don't always agree with them. You and I don't agree, but we at least agree to disagree, and I really enjoy that. Let's grab dinner/coffee when I'm over - you around over Christmas if I do do that crazy roadtrip? Jon. Oh, I don’t mind arguing with you Pete – like I said over dinner, I have *infinite* time for smart people, even if I don’t always agree with them. You and I don’t agree, but we at least agree to disagree, and I really enjoy that. Let’s grab dinner/coffee when I’m over – you around over Christmas if I do do that crazy roadtrip?

Jon.

]]> By: Pete Zaitcev http://www.jonmasters.org/blog/2007/09/10/the-walmart-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-100190 Pete Zaitcev Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:04:27 +0000 http://www.jonmasters.org/blog/?p=616#comment-100190 I'm sorry for arguing on your blog again, it is so stupid. I'll talk to you about it some time maybe. I’m sorry for arguing on your blog again, it is so stupid. I’ll talk to you about it some time maybe.

]]> By: jcm http://www.jonmasters.org/blog/2007/09/10/the-walmart-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-99639 jcm Tue, 11 Sep 2007 06:37:18 +0000 http://www.jonmasters.org/blog/?p=616#comment-99639 I'll agree that there exists no basic assumption that employers must provide healthcare...but in the absence of sanity, that is how the US healthcare "system" operates. I also agree that the complex chain of handling makes the process ridiculous. I guess, I'm agreeing with you on many of your points! BUT... ...given that the US healthcare system *is* so fundamentally broken, and given that a company like Walmart could easily afford to do better, and given that neither you nor I would be willing to work for a company that did not provide coverage ourselves...I think that they both should and could be helping the situation. One reason I buy coffee in Starbucks and don't actively rant against them is that they offer better healthcare than most of us are getting, to any employee who works more than a very minimal number of hours each week. I was genuinely surprised to hear about that, from friends who work for that company. Jon. I’ll agree that there exists no basic assumption that employers must provide healthcare…but in the absence of sanity, that is how the US healthcare “system” operates. I also agree that the complex chain of handling makes the process ridiculous. I guess, I’m agreeing with you on many of your points! BUT…

…given that the US healthcare system *is* so fundamentally broken, and given that a company like Walmart could easily afford to do better, and given that neither you nor I would be willing to work for a company that did not provide coverage ourselves…I think that they both should and could be helping the situation. One reason I buy coffee in Starbucks and don’t actively rant against them is that they offer better healthcare than most of us are getting, to any employee who works more than a very minimal number of hours each week. I was genuinely surprised to hear about that, from friends who work for that company.

Jon.

]]> By: Pete Zaitcev http://www.jonmasters.org/blog/2007/09/10/the-walmart-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-99569 Pete Zaitcev Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:51:36 +0000 http://www.jonmasters.org/blog/?p=616#comment-99569 Have it ever occured to you that all the anti-walmart hysteria may be just propaganda by leftist journos? And BTW, since you mentioned that, union organizers belong in jail (we are too civilized to hung them from the lampposts). I would not cry about medical benefits either; the problem is created by the anti-market overregulated medicine in America, where user A gets service from provider B, but B is paid by someone else (C). Since A does not pay, there's no incentive to consume less for A, or provide better service for B. If we had truly market medicine, maybe we would not need to demand Walmart to provide benefits. It's absolutely ridiculous to think that employers are unquestionably responsible for employees' medical coverage. The warped reality of the American system made you think that it's normal, but it's not. And the aforementioned journos made you think that government-run medicine is the only alternative, when it's not. I don't know what other "fundamental" issues you mean, but perhaps they are equally meaningless as the union racketeering and government meddling into the medicine. Have it ever occured to you that all the anti-walmart hysteria may be just propaganda by leftist journos? And BTW, since you mentioned that, union organizers belong in jail (we are too civilized to hung them from the lampposts). I would not cry about medical benefits either; the problem is created by the anti-market overregulated medicine in America, where user A gets service from provider B, but B is paid by someone else (C). Since A does not pay, there’s no incentive to consume less for A, or provide better service for B. If we had truly market medicine, maybe we would not need to demand Walmart to provide benefits. It’s absolutely ridiculous to think that employers are unquestionably responsible for employees’ medical coverage. The warped reality of the American system made you think that it’s normal, but it’s not. And the aforementioned journos made you think that government-run medicine is the only alternative, when it’s not. I don’t know what other “fundamental” issues you mean, but perhaps they are equally meaningless as the union racketeering and government meddling into the medicine.

]]> By: DG http://www.jonmasters.org/blog/2007/09/10/the-walmart-rule/comment-page-1/#comment-99555 DG Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:50:38 +0000 http://www.jonmasters.org/blog/?p=616#comment-99555 I always used to try and avoid shopping at ASDA in the UK, because it's owned by Walmart.... but according to my better half, ASDA apparently treats it's employees better than some other UK supermarkets.... which is surprising. So - good luck in avoiding Walmart. I presume you've seen the relevant South Park episode? I always used to try and avoid shopping at ASDA in the UK, because it’s owned by Walmart…. but according to my better half, ASDA apparently treats it’s employees better than some other UK supermarkets…. which is surprising.

So – good luck in avoiding Walmart. I presume you’ve seen the relevant South Park episode?

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